NazNet Fellowship

[Emiko Cothran]

Name	NazNet Fellowship
Link	www.facebook.com/groups/21159039720/
Description	This is a Nazarene friendly group for general discussion by members and friends of the Church of the Nazarene.
Public/Closed	Closed
Admins	G.R. Scott Cundiff Dave McClung Marsha Gupton Bryan Merrill David Parker Craig Laughlin Pete Vecchi Gary Swartzlander Landon Byron DeCrastos

It's not rude to talk about them here, but it feels it would be to talk Scott them there.

I will give my opinion later, but I have to get back to work right now

[A. Lucas Finch]

Aug 8, 2017 15:17:46 GMT -5 Emiko Cothran said:

It's not rude to talk about them here, but it feels it would be to talk Scott them there.

I will give my opinion later, but I have to get back to work right now

lol My opinion has been well documented at the DOTCOM.  I love facebook, but it's not an optimal place for the kind of conversations that have taken place at the DOTCOM over the years.

[Brandon Brown]

I think they lend too much to snark. That being said I'm warming to some as there seesm to be some genuine conversation going on. I still muss the forum format as I'm afraid I'm missing something.

[Emiko Cothran]

So, my opinion is there are some good conversations, more then I had feared there wouldn't be, tho there ARE plenty of shallow on-line answers.

I am getting the hang of the conversation and sub-conversation thing. It is not as annoying to read and follow and understand as it was before I was used to it......
.... Unless I get a notice someone posted there and I can't FIND it! Or I DO find it after carefully scanning each subthread and it ends up being "lol"... Ugh.

Also it is more "Nazarene specific" and less "Holiness Christians who just so happen to be Nazarene" then DOT COM was. Lots of talk about the general Assembly, and denomination specific things like amendments to the manual or "what is the biggest issue facing the Church of the Nazarene", or "does the Nazarene church you attend use pews or chairs" etc. stuff I don't care as much about as I attended a Nazarene church for like six months and hung out here with you guys for a year or 2, but honestly in my heart I am more "non-denominational". We are Christian Brothers and sisters and many or most here happen to be Nazarene, which is cool, pleanty to recomend the denomination, but I am not wed to the manual or anything

I am enjoying "I'm Nazarene too" a lot more. They talk a lot more about general Christian stuff, and they chit-chat about stuff I care about when not talking Christian stuff- like Dr. Who and Harry Potter and Politics... it's also a much more active group, so I post there way more then at the regular naznet place. I feel like I fit in good there and will make friends in time.

Here: I don't like the layout... But I am not sure that is "fixable" or if I am just comfortable with the older system of the old board.

[Brian]

I prefer neither; I much prefer email lists, but I know that isn't the trend. I just don't necessarily want the entire world to see via webcrawler what we all say, via either web forum or facebook.

[Emiko Cothran]

Oh, and Naztoo is very open with political discussion. After the strict ban in naznet I am sorta like opening the flood gates there. They seem to like it.
Half agree fervently with me, the other half seem to enjoy the debate.

[Cam Pence]

I think the Naznet FB page is fine as far as Nazarene FB groups go. There is some good discussion (although the FB Theology page is allowing too much anti-Catholic rubbish for my taste), but I like having this medium as an option. For the life of me, I can't understand why they care if this site is advertised there. Scott's "new bulletin" analogy has me scratching my head a little as it seems WAY oversimplified, but it is what it is.

[Susan Unger]

There might be good discussion there, but I can't stand the format so never go there. I like Sacramental Nazarenes out of them all, but even then I don't go there as much because of the FB format.

[Kyle Borger]

I view it as a mission to expose some to new thoughts about how to love like Jesus. Yes you will get the persons who say alcohol is a sin and do nothing to back it up. But if respectful dialog happens you also introduce people to new views. If nothing else we can gasp when we realize that some believe the manual trumps the Bible in terms of authority and truth. 

[Deleted]

I only joined the NazNet Pastors group, though there isn't all that much going on there.

[Susan Unger]

Aug 12, 2017 9:18:01 GMT -5 Kyle Borger said:

I view it as a mission to expose some to new thoughts about how to love like Jesus. Yes you will get the persons who say alcohol is a sin and do nothing to back it up. But if respectful dialog happens you also introduce people to new views. If nothing else we can gasp when we realize that some believe the manual trumps the Bible in terms of authority and truth. 

Curious - how has that been working with the alcohol thread? I haven't had the time nor the inclination to read it through to find out on my own.

[Kyle Borger]

I think it got locked. One of those things where a couple of people went after each other and take away a decent conversation for others. I think many Nazarenes would say that it is important to recognize that drinking alcohol responsibly is not sinful, but we also have no desire to change our call to abstinence as an act of sacrifice to help others. There are a few that argue that Jesus did not drink alcohol and that alcohol itself is sinful. sigh.

[Susan Unger]

Aug 29, 2017 14:47:12 GMT -5 Kyle Borger said:

I think it got locked. One of those things where a couple of people went after each other and take away a decent conversation for others. I think many Nazarenes would say that it is important to recognize that drinking alcohol responsibly is not sinful, but we also have no desire to change our call to abstinence as an act of sacrifice to help others. There are a few that argue that Jesus did not drink alcohol and that alcohol itself is sinful. sigh.

Alcohol threads always seem to get locked....

[Kyle Borger]

I have kind of soured on all the Facebook groups. Somehow someone is always ticking me off and I feel like yelling at them. Strangely enough at the.com site I usually only got mildly frustrated.

It just seems like so many more people are unwilling even consider another view. I didn't like Naz too because of the language. It really did offend me. I put up with it with people who don't claim Jesus, but to have people praise Jesus and use coarse language a second later ticks me off. Clergy around town here use bad language as well. That irks me too. So I left rather than trying to impose my will on them.

Honestly it just seems like few get where I am coming from. It just feels like so many pastors feel that a church should look a certain way they can't give room for something different.

[Greg Farra]

I left the SacNaz group because people were piling on someone (that I disagreed with as well)and I got private messages from a non-Nazarene about how bad the person was treated (it's an open group, so any one can read it). When I posted that we should give the person some grace, there were some responses that were less than graceful. I deleted the thread and left the group. I miss it in some ways, but I didn't care for the attitudes of some of the regulars. I'm extremely sacramental, but at some point you kick the dust off your feet and leave.

[Susan Unger]

Jan 10, 2018 21:48:25 GMT -5 Kyle Borger said:

I have kind of soured on all the Facebook groups. Somehow someone is always ticking me off and I feel like yelling at them. Strangely enough at the.com site I usually only got mildly frustrated.

It just seems like so many more people are unwilling even consider another view. I didn't like Naz too because of the language. It really did offend me. I put up with it with people who don't claim Jesus, but to have people praise Jesus and use coarse language a second later ticks me off. Clergy around town here use bad language as well. That irks me too. So I left rather than trying to impose my will on them.

Honestly it just seems like few get where I am coming from. It just feels like so many pastors feel that a church should look a certain way they can't give room for something different.

I get it - so frustrating!

[Kevin Wright]

I'm not sure why I keep trying to interact with the NazNet Fellowship group. I guess it's because it is the largest on-line gathering but I am tired of the over-moderation. When someone asked for a group to discuss Small Church topics, I created a Small Church Special Interest board on NazNet.net and shared it to the group. Others were sharing links to other possible social media sites to have the discussion so I felt it would be OK to share a link to NazNet.net as a possible site for the discussion. My post was deleted without explanation. I wasn't sure if it was a glitch so I posted again. Again it was deleted without explanation and they blocked me from posting for 24 hours. I'm trying to understand their thinking; so far I can't post anything about:

• Dan Bohi Ministries
• New Apostolic Reformation (NAR)
• Anything NazNet.net related