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Post by Kevin Wright on Nov 26, 2017 20:11:29 GMT -5
I have to admit the first time I heard the term Social Justice used in the context of the Church, I thought the well-meaning christians really didn't understand what Social Justice means.This quote sums it up for me: "If the social justice movement went by its actual name, young Christians would not have been lured into it. Because the social justice movement is actually Cultural Marxism. There's no such thing as 'social justice,' people. In fact, in the Bible, justice never has an adjective. There's justice and there's injustice, but there's not different kinds of justice." www.wwutt.com/2017/11/what-does-bible-say-about-social-justice.html?m=1
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Post by Cam Pence on Nov 27, 2017 13:06:24 GMT -5
I have to admit the first time I heard the term Social Justice used in the context of the Church, I thought the well-meaning christians really didn't understand what Social Justice means.This quote sums it up for me: "If the social justice movement went by its actual name, young Christians would not have been lured into it. Because the social justice movement is actually Cultural Marxism. There's no such thing as 'social justice,' people. In fact, in the Bible, justice never has an adjective. There's justice and there's injustice, but there's not different kinds of justice." www.wwutt.com/2017/11/what-does-bible-say-about-social-justice.html?m=1Well, if you are wanting to generate more posts here, this is as good an effort as any In all seriousness though, I stopped trying to engage ideologies that seek to needlessly politicize and mislabel the concept of social justice that is at the heart of the Gospel itself a long time ago. The next generation gets it, maybe better than ever before. People like the author of this piece can continue to spit in the wind for as long as they'd like. I'll stick with Wesley. No holiness but social holiness.
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Post by Kevin Wright on Nov 27, 2017 15:11:37 GMT -5
if you are wanting to generate more posts here I really do not have much invested in this forum so if it never takes off, that's okay. I'm just tired of conversations being shut down when people still have something to say, so I thought I would bring it here in case anyone wanted to continue the discussion.
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Post by Kevin Wright on Nov 27, 2017 15:17:03 GMT -5
I stopped trying to engage ideologies that seek to needlessly politicize and mislabel the concept of social justice that is at the heart of the Gospel itself a long time ago. I think that was the point of the authors statement. What the church is calling Social Justice is not the original meaning of the term. The church is called to show compassion to those in need, I guess that is why I like the term Compassionate Ministries. On the other hand, Social Justice used to mean Socialism, Take from the rich and give to the poor.
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Post by Emiko Cothran on Nov 28, 2017 17:28:47 GMT -5
Justice means being "just": being fair, honest, and right. Social justice means the same thing but on a societal level.
Modern people who fight for "social justice" don't want everyone to be 100% equal. They don't want the government to suck up all the money, property, and possessions in the country, divide it by the number of people living in that country, and then redistribute it so everyone has exactly the same amount of everything! (Repeate annually to insure noone gets ahead or behind)
Rather, it is about ensuring people are treated fairly, justly, and humanely.
Everyone I know who supports the "social justice" cause or who is a "social justice worrior" would be 100% okay with all people having their basic needs met, while the lucky/rich/talented/driven have luxury, multiple houses, lavish vacations to exotic lands, etc.
It's not about everyone being 100% equal irregardless of family history, talent, luck, priorities, natural abilities, education, ambition, risk, etc, but rather about ensuring the poor aren't taken advantage of: offered slave wages noone could possibly live on to people who put in an honest days work. And ensuring that all races and people groups are given a proper chance to thrive.
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Post by Susan Unger on Nov 28, 2017 22:36:32 GMT -5
I stopped trying to engage ideologies that seek to needlessly politicize and mislabel the concept of social justice that is at the heart of the Gospel itself a long time ago. I think that was the point of the authors statement. What the church is calling Social Justice is not the original meaning of the term. The church is called to show compassion to those in need, I guess that is why I like the term Compassionate Ministries. On the other hand, Social Justice used to mean Socialism, Take from the rich and give to the poor. I'm sure that's how my parents view it - another form of socialism. So when I talk with them about this topic, I use other words... compassionate ministries would be an example.
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Post by Susan Unger on Nov 28, 2017 22:37:21 GMT -5
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