Greg
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CotN Connection: Pastor of The Point Church, San Jose, CA
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Post by Greg on Jul 31, 2017 15:50:35 GMT -5
I have a friend who pastors a great church near me and he has had Stan Toler speak at his church for several years now. He recently found out that his worship leader had been referred by Stan Toler to another pastor in Texas and now the worship leader is moving to Houston.
No surprise there, you may say. No laws broken there. Nothing in the Bible against that.
But I've made a note to self... "Keep traveling denominational leaders far away." They aren't your friend.
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Post by Gina Stevenson on Jul 31, 2017 17:29:43 GMT -5
Is it maybe due to the worship leader getting closer to their roots, & not just 'cause Stan happened along?
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Greg
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CotN Connection: Pastor of The Point Church, San Jose, CA
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Post by Greg on Jul 31, 2017 21:45:53 GMT -5
Is it maybe due to the worship leader getting closer to their roots, & not just 'cause Stan happened along? Sure. Like I said, no laws broken here... Dr. Toler is more than free to play matchmaker. But for me it's a lesson learned.
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Post by Gina Stevenson on Jul 31, 2017 21:50:54 GMT -5
Is it maybe due to the worship leader getting closer to their roots, & not just 'cause Stan happened along? Sure. Like I said, no laws broken here... Dr. Toler is more than free to play matchmaker. But for me it's a lesson learned. OK. Was just thinking maybe he'd have been gone, Stan or no Stan . . . but sounds like you're not so sure. 😉
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Greg
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CotN Connection: Pastor of The Point Church, San Jose, CA
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Post by Greg on Jul 31, 2017 22:08:30 GMT -5
Sure. Like I said, no laws broken here... Dr. Toler is more than free to play matchmaker. But for me it's a lesson learned. OK. Was just thinking maybe he'd have been gone, Stan or no Stan . . . but sounds like you're not so sure. 😉 Who's to say, right? But knowing now that he plays matchmaker, that is a very costly risk.
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Post by Susan Unger on Aug 1, 2017 0:07:17 GMT -5
I once told a former pastor that he must take vacations [he was complaining of burn out]. He did, and ended up staying as an associate at the church where he had gone on vacation. Well....now...
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Brian
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CotN Connection: District licensed at San Diego Mount Carmel Church of the Nazarene
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Post by Brian on Aug 16, 2017 0:54:16 GMT -5
I like Stan; heard him at a palcon a couple years back and I think he is the speaker at an upcoming pastor's retreat in Southern California in October.
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Greg
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CotN Connection: Pastor of The Point Church, San Jose, CA
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Post by Greg on Sept 6, 2017 1:13:29 GMT -5
I like Stan; heard him at a palcon a couple years back and I think he is the speaker at an upcoming pastor's retreat in Southern California in October. He always has something great to say. He's been a huge help to Nazarene pastors for quite a few decades now.
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